Discussion:
[clug] Debian Jessie (Testing, ) "no installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources"
George
2014-10-17 10:53:05 UTC
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Hi,

I recently tried to install Debian Jess using VMware Workstation 10,
and the installation fails with the error "no installable kernel was
found in the defined APT sources". Has anyone else seen this issue ?

I finally succeeded using the following suggestion from a web site.

The solution I found was to let the installation continue (say Yes to
the message asking if you want to continue without installing a
kernel).

?Then, when the final prompt "Installation complete" appears (i.e.
the one that appears just before it goes down for reboot), do the
following:
1.Press Alt+F3 to switch to a virtual console, then press Enter to
activate it.
2.Type "apt-install linux-image-amd64"
3.Wait for the prompt to re-appear (you can monitor progress by
pressing Alt+F4, but you must Alt+F3 to see whether it's actually
finished)
4.When the installation of the kernel is complete, press Alt+F1 to
return to the installer, and press Enter with the Continue button
highlighted to reboot the system
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550587)
Simon Oxwell
2014-10-17 11:03:33 UTC
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Hi George,

Jessie is still a bit alpha, isn't it? Having trouble finding an installer
for it myself, but assuming you were doing a network install, the mirror
you picked might not be mirroring anything past wheezy.


Simon
Post by George
Hi,
I recently tried to install Debian Jess using VMware Workstation 10,
and the installation fails with the error "no installable kernel was
found in the defined APT sources". Has anyone else seen this issue ?
I finally succeeded using the following suggestion from a web site.
The solution I found was to let the installation continue (say Yes to
the message asking if you want to continue without installing a
kernel).
Then, when the final prompt "Installation complete" appears (i.e.
the one that appears just before it goes down for reboot), do the
1.Press Alt+F3 to switch to a virtual console, then press Enter to
activate it.
2.Type "apt-install linux-image-amd64"
3.Wait for the prompt to re-appear (you can monitor progress by
pressing Alt+F4, but you must Alt+F3 to see whether it's actually
finished)
4.When the installation of the kernel is complete, press Alt+F1 to
return to the installer, and press Enter with the Continue button
highlighted to reboot the system
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550587)
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Scott Ferguson
2014-10-17 10:47:12 UTC
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Post by Simon Oxwell
Hi George,
Jessie is still a bit alpha, isn't it?
Testing, not Unstable (or Experimental), about 3 weeks from the freeze
preparatory for becoming Stable (usually means approx. 4+ years of testing)
[no comment on the attempt to get a GR which will delay current work]
Post by Simon Oxwell
Having trouble finding an installer
for it myself,
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_beta_2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-jessie-DI-b2-amd64-netinst.iso
Post by Simon Oxwell
but assuming you were doing a network install, the mirror
you picked might not be mirroring anything past wheezy.
Can you expand on that please?
Post by Simon Oxwell
Simon
Post by George
Hi,
I recently tried to install Debian Jess using VMware Workstation 10,
and the installation fails with the error "no installable kernel was
found in the defined APT sources". Has anyone else seen this issue ?
I finally succeeded using the following suggestion from a web site.
If you are having problems *please* file a bug report so the problem can
be quickly fixed.

Ideally you'd read the release notes before installing:-
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20141005

*And* the errata:-
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata

The *first* place to check for support is debian.org
Post by Simon Oxwell
Post by George
The solution I found was to let the installation continue (say Yes to
the message asking if you want to continue without installing a
kernel).
It sounds like you are using the 32-bit (multi-arch) installer instead
of the AMD64 installer. See the link further up this post.

----------------8<----------------------->8-------------------------

HTH

Kind regards
Tomasz Ciolek
2014-10-17 11:53:32 UTC
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I have been running jessie/testing for a while now...

To get to jessie, ideally you install wheezy, then change your osurces.list, and then do

apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgarde

Tomasz
Post by Simon Oxwell
Hi George,
Jessie is still a bit alpha, isn't it? Having trouble finding an installer
for it myself, but assuming you were doing a network install, the mirror
you picked might not be mirroring anything past wheezy.
Simon
Post by George
Hi,
I recently tried to install Debian Jess using VMware Workstation 10,
and the installation fails with the error "no installable kernel was
found in the defined APT sources". Has anyone else seen this issue ?
I finally succeeded using the following suggestion from a web site.
The solution I found was to let the installation continue (say Yes to
the message asking if you want to continue without installing a
kernel).
Then, when the final prompt "Installation complete" appears (i.e.
the one that appears just before it goes down for reboot), do the
1.Press Alt+F3 to switch to a virtual console, then press Enter to
activate it.
2.Type "apt-install linux-image-amd64"
3.Wait for the prompt to re-appear (you can monitor progress by
pressing Alt+F4, but you must Alt+F3 to see whether it's actually
finished)
4.When the installation of the kernel is complete, press Alt+F1 to
return to the installer, and press Enter with the Continue button
highlighted to reboot the system
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550587)
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George
2014-10-17 23:58:31 UTC
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Tomasz,

I wanted to install Cinnamon + Jessie, and I do not know how to do
this without using the Jessie ISOs.
?https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

If you know how and it is easy to describe, please list the steps.

Maybe it is as easy as editing /etc/apt/sources.list and changing
wheezy to jessie, and then selecting Cinnamon to install? "apt-get
install cinnamon" ?
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free

George.

At Friday, 17-10-2014 on 22:53 Tomasz Ciolek wrote:


I have been running jessie/testing for a while now...

To get to jessie, ideally you install wheezy, then change your
osurces.list, and then do

apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgarde

Tomasz
Post by Simon Oxwell
Hi George,
Jessie is still a bit alpha, isn't it? Having trouble finding an installer
for it myself, but assuming you were doing a network install, the mirror
you picked might not be mirroring anything past wheezy.
Simon
???? Hi,
I recently tried to install Debian Jess using VMware Workstation 10,
and the installation fails with the error "no installable kernel was
found in the defined APT sources". Has anyone else seen this issue ?
I finally succeeded using the following suggestion from a web site.
The solution I found was to let the installation continue (say Yes to
the message asking if you want to continue without installing a
kernel).
??Then, when the final prompt "Installation complete" appears
(i.e.
Post by Simon Oxwell
the one that appears just before it goes down for reboot), do the
1.Press Alt+F3 to switch to a virtual console, then press Enter to
activate it.
2.Type "apt-install linux-image-amd64"
3.Wait for the prompt to re-appear (you can monitor progress by
pressing Alt+F4, but you must Alt+F3 to see whether it's actually
finished)
4.When the installation of the kernel is complete, press Alt+F1 to
return to the installer, and press Enter with the Continue button
highlighted to reboot the system
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550587)
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Tomasz Ciolek
2014-10-18 02:34:47 UTC
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All
Post by George
Tomasz,
I wanted to install Cinnamon + Jessie, and I do not know how to do
this without using the Jessie ISOs.
?https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
If you know how and it is easy to describe, please list the steps.
Cinnamon is a desktop manager? if so there is a package set in jessie repositories
many lines for 'apt-cache search cinnamon'

Personally I use wmaker , so I can't help you with cinnamon configuration.
Post by George
Maybe it is as easy as editing /etc/apt/sources.list and changing
wheezy to jessie, and then selecting Cinnamon to install? "apt-get
install cinnamon" ?
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
What I did, to upgrade my wheezy desktop to jessie, was this:

0. I backed up all my data and critical system and application config files to
an external HDD. Just in case.

1. Edited /etc/apt/sources.list to be like so:

deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

Note: Internode is my ISP, so choose a repository close to you. Debian have a list of
available mirrors, but make sure your browse the chosen mirror and find out what URL
leads to the root debian directory, as URL paths differ between mirrors.

2. as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get update' to pull data from repositories

3. as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to upgrade the distribution installation.
Much download and installing will happen.

4. as root as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get --purge autoremove' to remove obsolete
and unnecessary packages and purge their configuration files


Caveats and disclaimers:

0. There is no easy downgrade path. Reinstall is the safest way to do that.

1. jessie is NOT a stable distribution. It pulls packages from Sid (unstable) after some
period of time, if there is no major bugs logged against the packages. So, sometimes
things break. Until the package freeze process begins in November/December this will
still be the case.

2. In my case it was fairly painless. Debian guys warn you if they need to make deep
changes to config, so pay attention to that.

3. you might have to update/reconfigure xorg. can't help you there. Don't know
your hardware

4. your mileage may vary due to older/closed hardware. make use you install
the relevant firmware packages.

5. this worked for me. Use at your own risk.
Post by George
George.
Tomasz
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Scott Ferguson
2014-10-18 03:21:24 UTC
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Some small additions and clarifications
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
All
Post by George
Tomasz,
----------------8<---------------------->8-----------------------
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
0. I backed up all my data and critical system and application config files to
an external HDD. Just in case.
deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
Alternatively use the redirector to automagically select the local mirror:-
http://http.debian.net/

Demo:-
http://http.debian.net/demo.html

See also:-
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGeoMirror

You can also use netselect-apt to choose the fastest reposititory. e.g.
(as root:-
cp /etc/apt/sources.list{,.bak}
netselect-apt testing

If you run more than one Debian box I'd recommend installing
apt-cacher-ng on one box and routing (use /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/90proxy)
all apt requests through it to avoid downloading the same packages twice
on the same network. Yes, apt-cacher-ng will cope with non-official
debian repostitories, *and* other distros, and mixed debian repositories
(old-stable, stable, testing, unstable, experimental)

You can also do this manually - when you do apt-get
upgrade/dist-upgrade/install the packages are downloaded to
/var/cache/apt/archives (until you run apt-get clean/autoclean). Apt
will look in the cache before downloading - so if update/install to one
box you can simply copy those to another machine and avoid duplicate
downloads. e.g.:-
scp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb root at somebox:/var/cache/apt/archives
(presuming you have previously used ssh-copy-id to authenticate the user
as root at somebox)
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
Note: Internode is my ISP, so choose a repository close to you. Debian have a list of
available mirrors, but make sure your browse the chosen mirror and find out what URL
leads to the root debian directory, as URL paths differ between mirrors.
The Debian mirrors page lists all official mirrors, but, there are
others. It's worthwhile checking if your ISP has a mirror, often they do
and downloads from those mirrors (sometimes) don't count against your
broadband limits. Otherwise some locals 'may' find the local uber mirror
faster:-
http://debian.mirror.uber.com.au/debian/
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
2. as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get update' to pull data from repositories
3. as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to upgrade the distribution installation.
Much download and installing will happen.
That should be "apt-get upgrade" - not "dist-upgrade"
e.g. (as root)
apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

If, while doing an upgrade you get a message about "packages being held
back" it means that some *core* packages have changed. In which case you
will need to use "dist-upgrade" - *after* the upgrade.
Dist-upgrades will usually result in orphan packages.
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
4. as root as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get --purge autoremove' to remove obsolete
and unnecessary packages and purge their configuration files
Only necessary if during "apt-get upgrade" apt notifies of orphaned
packages.

Tip - install deborphan to find other orphan packages.
deborphan # display orphan packages

To remove them (as root):-
apt-get -y --purge remove `deborphan` # remove and purge configuration
files for orphan packages.

debfoster will do more, but is a little more complicated.
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
0. There is no easy downgrade path. Reinstall is the safest way to do that.
1. jessie is NOT a stable distribution. It pulls packages from Sid (unstable) after some
period of time, if there is no major bugs logged against the packages. So, sometimes
things break. Until the package freeze process begins in November/December this will
still be the case.
Jessie is Testing. It doesn't "pull"[*1] packages from Sid (Unstable).
Capability additions are frozen in Sid, they then "migrate" to Jessie,
(after sufficient cross-package testing Testing becomes Stable).

Agreed that Jessie is not stable (or Stable) - in that it requires
constant updates, not that it will crash or has frequent glitches.
Unless you have a compelling reason to run Testing (you are a tester, or
cannot get it's features elsewhere) then you are generally better using
stable, and adding backports as a repository. If you simply want the
latest Iceweasel add backports and the Iceweasel backports repository.
If you want stable and features of Testing or Unstable - add those
repositories and use pinning to avoid breaking stable while selectively
installing packages from Testing/Unstable. YMWV.

a useful reference is https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting

[*1] that happens if you add mix repostitories in /etc/apt/sources.list
and/or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list - if you choose to do that you
should use pinning (/etc/apt/preferences or preferably
/etc/apt/preferences.d/*.pref) to prevent breakages.

NOTES: I'd recommend using the simulate switch (-s) before running
remove, autoremove, deborphan, upgrade, or (when *core* packages change)
dist-upgrade. If the results look sane, then proceed with the command
minus the -s. e.g.:-
apt-get -s install $package/s | more # check than nothing important is
going to be removed (it happens), then, if it looks OK:-
apt-get install $package

*Running anything later than old-stable or stable on a server is
generally consider "shoot-foot" :)

*Important*: if you want security, Jessie is not a great choice
https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing


----------------8<---------------------->8-----------------------

HTH

Kind regards
George
2014-10-18 07:57:37 UTC
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Thanks Tomasz, Scott.? That's quite a few things for me to read
up on and implement.


At Saturday, 18-10-2014 on 13:34 Tomasz Ciolek wrote:


All
???? Tomasz,
I wanted to install Cinnamon + Jessie, and I do not know how to do
this without using the Jessie ISOs.
?https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
If you know how and it is easy to describe, please list the steps.
Cinnamon is a desktop manager? if so there is a package set in jessie
repositories
many lines for 'apt-cache search cinnamon'

Personally I use wmaker , so I can't help you with cinnamon
configuration.??
Maybe it is as easy as editing /etc/apt/sources.list and changing
wheezy to jessie, and then selecting Cinnamon to install? "apt-get
install cinnamon" ?
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
What I did, to upgrade my wheezy desktop to jessie, was this:

0. I backed up all my data and critical system and application config
files to
an external HDD. Just in case.

1. Edited /etc/apt/sources.list to be like so:

deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian/ jessie main contrib
non-free
deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian/ jessie-updates main
contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

Note: Internode is my ISP, so choose a repository close to you. Debian
have a list of
available mirrors, but make sure your browse the chosen mirror and
find out what URL
leads to the root debian directory, as URL paths differ between
mirrors.

2. as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get update' to pull data from
repositories

3. as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to upgrade the
distribution installation.
Much download and installing will happen.

4. as root as root (or with sudo) I run 'apt-get --purge autoremove'
to remove obsolete
and unnecessary packages and purge their configuration files


Caveats and disclaimers:

0. There is no easy downgrade path. Reinstall is the safest way to do
that.

1. jessie is NOT a stable distribution. It pulls packages from Sid
(unstable) after some
period of time, if there is no major bugs logged against the packages.
So, sometimes
things break. Until the package freeze process begins in
November/December this will
still be the case.

2. In my case it was fairly painless. Debian guys warn you if they
need to make deep
changes to config, so pay attention to that.

3. you might have to update/reconfigure xorg. can't help you there.
Don't know
your hardware

4. your mileage may vary due to older/closed??hardware. make use you
install
the relevant firmware packages.

5. this worked for me. Use at your own risk.??
George.
Tomasz
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George
2014-10-18 08:09:04 UTC
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Hi,

I have been reading about? "High-Availability Storage With GlusterFS
3.2.x On Debian Wheezy - Automatic File Replication (Mirror) Across
Two Storage Servers", and wonder if anyone is using GlusterFS, or has
had recent experience with it and would like to comment?

Naturally I am thinking of applying GlusterFS in a two server KVM &
Virt-Manager environment.

I have yet to read far enough to determine if GlusterFS supports Srv1
Srv2 or only Srv1 => Srv2 syncing, that is can it be used for DFS ??
I am guessing there is no file locking?

George

Bob Edwards
2014-10-18 01:18:38 UTC
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Post by Tomasz Ciolek
I have been running jessie/testing for a while now...
To get to jessie, ideally you install wheezy, then change your osurces.list, and then do
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgarde
Tomasz
+1 (ie. that's also what I do).

I have about 4 boxen running Jessie. ("about" because two of them are
virtual and not always running).

To "change your osurces.list", I do:
# vi /etc/apt/sources.list
:1,$s/wheezy/jessie/g
:wq

(then the apt-get update etc.)

Bob Edwards.
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
Post by Simon Oxwell
Hi George,
Jessie is still a bit alpha, isn't it? Having trouble finding an installer
for it myself, but assuming you were doing a network install, the mirror
you picked might not be mirroring anything past wheezy.
Simon
Post by George
Hi,
I recently tried to install Debian Jess using VMware Workstation 10,
and the installation fails with the error "no installable kernel was
found in the defined APT sources". Has anyone else seen this issue ?
I finally succeeded using the following suggestion from a web site.
The solution I found was to let the installation continue (say Yes to
the message asking if you want to continue without installing a
kernel).
Then, when the final prompt "Installation complete" appears (i.e.
the one that appears just before it goes down for reboot), do the
1.Press Alt+F3 to switch to a virtual console, then press Enter to
activate it.
2.Type "apt-install linux-image-amd64"
3.Wait for the prompt to re-appear (you can monitor progress by
pressing Alt+F4, but you must Alt+F3 to see whether it's actually
finished)
4.When the installation of the kernel is complete, press Alt+F1 to
return to the installer, and press Enter with the Continue button
highlighted to reboot the system
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550587)
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George
2014-10-18 02:23:51 UTC
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Thanks Bob.

This morning I downloaded the net-inst iso
"debian-jessie-DI-b2-amd64-netinst.iso" and this iso allows me to
build Jessie VMs under VMware Workstation and under KVM.? The iso
that I have previously downloaded is
"debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso" which is the iso that could not
find a kernel.

Do you use KVM for any of your Jessie installations?? I am using
"qxl"? and Spice for a Cinnamon KVM installation and it reports
"Running in software rendering mode".? This is not displayed in
VMware Workstation's VM.

I would like to trial Jessie with Cinnamon on a real hardware. I have
liked Cinnamon now for a while but since I usually run Debian stable,
I have not done run it as my GUI. I do like Cinnamon in Jessie.
Previously when I used Linux Mint I had issues where copying large
files failed. Today all worked well.

https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
To install Debian testing, we recommend you use the Jessie Beta 2
release of the installer, after checking its errata [1]. The following
images are available for Jessie Beta 2:
netinst (generally 150-280 MB) CD images
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_beta_2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-jessie-DI-b2-amd64-netinst.iso

George
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
I have been running jessie/testing for a while now...
To get to jessie, ideally you install wheezy, then change your
osurces.list, and then do
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgarde
Tomasz
+1 (ie. that's also what I do).

I have about 4 boxen running Jessie. ("about" because two of them are
virtual and not always running).

To "change your osurces.list", I do:
# vi /etc/apt/sources.list
:1,$s/wheezy/jessie/g
:wq

(then the apt-get update etc.)

Bob Edwards.
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
Post by Simon Oxwell
Hi George,
Jessie is still a bit alpha, isn't it? Having trouble finding an installer
for it myself, but assuming you were doing a network install, the mirror
you picked might not be mirroring anything past wheezy.
Simon
??????Hi,
I recently tried to install Debian Jess using VMware Workstation 10,
and the installation fails with the error "no installable kernel was
found in the defined APT sources". Has anyone else seen this issue ?
I finally succeeded using the following suggestion from a web site.
The solution I found was to let the installation continue (say Yes to
the message asking if you want to continue without installing a
kernel).
?? Then, when the final prompt "Installation complete" appears
(i.e.
Post by Tomasz Ciolek
Post by Simon Oxwell
the one that appears just before it goes down for reboot), do the
1.Press Alt+F3 to switch to a virtual console, then press Enter to
activate it.
2.Type "apt-install linux-image-amd64"
3.Wait for the prompt to re-appear (you can monitor progress by
pressing Alt+F4, but you must Alt+F3 to see whether it's actually
finished)
4.When the installation of the kernel is complete, press Alt+F1 to
return to the installer, and press Enter with the Continue button
highlighted to reboot the system
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550587)
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